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04/16/2021 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:01:07 AM Start
08:03:40 AM Presentation: School District Perspectives & Updates; Looking Ahead by Fairbanks North Star Borough, Cordova City, & Alaska Gateway School Districts
09:15:45 AM HB19
09:25:56 AM HB60
10:07:34 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+ Presentation: School District Perspectives & TELECONFERENCED
Updates; Looking Ahead by Fairbanks North Star
Borough, Cordova City, & Alaska Gateway
School Districts
+= HB 60 PUBLIC SCHOOLS: MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 19 LIMITED TEACHER CERTIFICATES; LANGUAGES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 19(EDC) Out of Committee
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 16, 2021                                                                                         
                           8:01 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harriet Drummond, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Andi Story, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky                                                                                                 
Representative Grier Hopkins                                                                                                    
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Ronald Gillham                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: School District Perspectives & Updates; Looking                                                                   
Ahead by Fairbanks North Star Borough~ Cordova City~ & Alaska                                                                   
Gateway School Districts                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 19                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to instruction in a language other than                                                                        
English; and establishing limited language immersion teacher                                                                    
certificates."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 19(EDC) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 60                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to mental health education."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  19                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: LIMITED TEACHER CERTIFICATES; LANGUAGES                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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04/09/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
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04/09/21       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
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04/12/21       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
04/12/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/12/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/12/21       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/14/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/14/21       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/16/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  60                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PUBLIC SCHOOLS: MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) CLAMAN                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/15/21                                                                               
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       EDC, FIN                                                                                               
03/31/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/31/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/31/21       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/16/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KAREN GABORIK, PhD, Superintendent                                                                                              
Fairbanks North Star Borough School District                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Took part in a presentation on School                                                                    
District Perspectives and Updates.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ALEX RUSSIN, Superintendent                                                                                                     
Cordova City School District                                                                                                    
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Took part in a presentation on School                                                                    
District Perspectives and Updates.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT MACMANUS, Superintendent                                                                                                  
Alaska Gateway School District                                                                                                  
Tok, Alaska                                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:  Took part in a presentation on School                                                                    
District Perspectives and Updates.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JONATHAN KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented HB 19.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SOPHIE JONAS, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 60 0n behalf of Representative                                                              
Claman, prime sponsor.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JASON LESSARD, Executive Director                                                                                               
National Alliance on Mental Illness Anchorage                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided invited testimony on HB 60.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EMMA KNAPP, Alumni                                                                                                              
Mental Health Advocacy Through Storytelling                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided invited testimony on HB 60.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE RHYNEER JR, MD                                                                                                           
Eagle River, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided invited testimony on HB 60.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KATIE BOTZ                                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 60.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA SAMASH                                                                                                                   
Nenana, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on HB 60.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN WEDEMEYER                                                                                                              
Citizens Commission on Human Rights, Alaska and Washington                                                                      
Chapter                                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 60.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
APRIL ORTH                                                                                                                      
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 60.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA TYNDALL                                                                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 60.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MATT CLAMAN                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT:   As prime sponsor,  answered questions about                                                             
HB 60.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:01:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ANDI   STORY  called   the  House   Education  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   8:01  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Drummond, Hopkins,  Gillham, and Story  were present at  the call                                                               
to order.   Representatives Zulkosky, Prax, and  Cronk arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:  School District  Perspectives &  Updates; Looking                                                               
Ahead by  Fairbanks North  Star Borough,  Cordova City,  & Alaska                                                               
Gateway School Districts                                                                                                        
 Presentation: School District Perspectives & Updates; Looking                                                              
 Ahead by Fairbanks North Star Borough, Cordova City, & Alaska                                                              
                    Gateway School Districts                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:03:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN GABORIK, PhD, Superintendent,  Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                               
School  District  (FNSBSD),  took  part in  the  presentation  on                                                               
School District  Perspectives and Updates.   She said  FNSBSD had                                                               
opened  its school  to  in-person learning  for  any family  that                                                               
wanted  to access  the  option  at the  beginning  of the  second                                                               
semester.   She offered  that the district  provided a  few weeks                                                               
after winter break  to adjust for any  COVID-19 transmission that                                                               
may  occur after  travel [before  beginning the  semester].   She                                                               
shared that elementary schools began  on January 19, 2021, middle                                                               
schools  started  on  January  26,  2021,  and  high  schools  on                                                               
February 2, 2021.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DR.  GABORIK  said  FNSBSD's  in-person   attendance  was  at  68                                                               
percent.  Elementary  schools had a higher  rate at approximately                                                               
80  percent when  compared to  52 percent  at secondary  schools.                                                               
She said these numbers represented  traditional schools but noted                                                               
that  charter schools  are using  different schedules  along with                                                               
the correspondence  school and special  programs.   She commented                                                               
that the  district was not seeing  the jump in attendance  it had                                                               
hoped  for  over  the  spring semester.  She  shared  that  2,000                                                               
students left  the district  due to  COVID-19 related  factors in                                                               
the previous  fall, along  with 650 students  who moved  from in-                                                               
person instruction to  correspondence school.  She  said this had                                                               
a significant  revenue impact.   She said  the enrollment  was up                                                               
from October 2020, with an  approximate count of 11,200 to 11,700                                                               
students.    She  noted  that  the district  would  be  doing  an                                                               
enrollment  campaign to  encourage families  to re-enroll  in the                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. GABORIK  said that anecdotally  the district heard  from many                                                               
families that were still waiting  [to re-enroll].  She noted that                                                               
the eligible  age for the  COVID-19 vaccination was 16,  and some                                                               
families wanted  to vaccinate their children  before returning to                                                               
in-person school.  She shared  that some parents wanted to finish                                                               
out the school year in their  current model.  She added that some                                                               
parents wanted  to know what  the next  year will look  like. She                                                               
remarked that  FNSBSD wouldn't  have a  hybrid option,  and would                                                               
rather be  fully in-person, although  the district would  have an                                                               
expanded "E-learning"  option and  a correspondence option.   She                                                               
said  that  the other  concern  was  what social  distancing  and                                                               
masking would be like in the  fall.  She commented that some high                                                               
school  students  were not  returning  because  "the high  school                                                               
isn't quite ... what they were wanting."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR.  GABORIK said  FNSBSD's current  school day  is shorter  than                                                               
what  it  normally  would  be.   She  shared  that  the  district                                                               
implemented longer  teacher planning  time, so teachers  had time                                                               
for  the  hybrid-remote  learning  option  along  with  in-person                                                               
instruction.   She  said that  transportation  and food  services                                                               
were  running normally.    She explained  that  the district  was                                                               
still  working in  "pods"  with strict  "cohorts,"  but that  the                                                               
learning environment  was getting  closer to  what it  would have                                                               
looked like pre-COVID-19.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:09:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  asked  about  the  district's  student  count                                                               
before the pandemic.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR.  GABORIK  answered  that  before   the  pandemic,  NSBSD  was                                                               
projected at 13,281 students, and the October count was 11,260.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:10:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY asked  the next  presenter, Alex  Russin, what  a                                                               
school day looked like for his district.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ALEX  RUSSIN,   Superintendent,  Cordova  City   School  District                                                               
(CCSD),  took  part  in  the   presentation  on  School  District                                                               
Perspectives and Updates.   In response to the  question, he said                                                               
CCSD looks at every day as  an opportunity to learn something new                                                               
and to  grow.  He  offered that his  district has been  in person                                                               
all year, but that CCSD started  off the school year in a "staged                                                               
approach,"   which  meant   dividing  the   kindergarten  through                                                               
twelfth-grade ("k-12") classes into  two different cohort groups.                                                               
He explained  that the district  has two schools,  a kindergarten                                                               
through  sixth-grade elementary  school  and  a seventh-  through                                                               
twelfth-grade junior/senior high school.   He explained that each                                                               
cohort comes in  for part of the  school day in person.   He said                                                               
the schools  prepared for  the need  to go  to a  remote learning                                                               
platform.  He  said cohort "A" spent the first  week of school in                                                               
person,  while cohort  "B"  started  online.   He  said this  was                                                               
because  there were  new mitigation  strategy  processes and  new                                                               
things  to   implement  to  which  students   and  staff  weren't                                                               
accustomed.  Rather  than flooding the schools  with all students                                                               
at one time,  he offered that CCSD took a  deliberate approach in                                                               
having each  cohort come for a  week.  During the  second week of                                                               
school,  cohort  B came  to  school  and learned  the  mitigation                                                               
strategies  and expectations,  while  cohort A  was online  doing                                                               
distance delivery.   He said  by week three, the  district brough                                                               
all students  back to the  building, but separated by  the cohort                                                               
model,  which  is  how  the district  has  been  operating  since                                                               
August.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN said there were few  positive cases in the school.  He                                                               
offered that  recently nine students tested  positive [for COVID-                                                               
19] from an event outside of  the school, but there was no spread                                                               
of  COVID-19  within the  school.    He  attributed that  to  the                                                               
mitigation strategies.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN  explained that  students come to  school for  part of                                                               
the day,  and then work independently  with para-professional and                                                               
family support  outside of  the structured school  day.   He said                                                               
that students  work for a  few hours doing independent  study and                                                               
exploratory study.   He noted  that this  aligns with one  of the                                                               
fundamental tenants  of CCSD's  strategic vision,  "that learning                                                               
happens outside  of the four walls  of the school building."   He                                                               
said the district has partnered  with families and local entities                                                               
to help make that successful.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:15:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN  said CCSD was  following the waiver process  from the                                                               
United  States  Department  of  Agriculture  (USDA)  for  a  food                                                               
service  program and  has been  distributing over  2,000 meals  a                                                               
week.   He said the  school population  was at 288  students this                                                               
past year, although normally the  district has between 325 to 330                                                               
students.  He explained "brick  and mortar" enrollment is down 15                                                               
to  19 percent  this year.    The district  has a  correspondence                                                               
program, but  he said  it doesn't  compare to  some of  the other                                                               
state correspondence programs.  He  said 25 students who left in-                                                               
person  schooling  have  enrolled in  the  city's  correspondence                                                               
program,  and  between  5  to 10  students  have  selected  other                                                               
correspondence programs in the state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RUSSIN  said there  is  in-person  schooling Monday  through                                                               
Thursday.    He  shared  that   on  Fridays,  students  have  the                                                               
opportunity to  come to school  to work  in small groups  or with                                                               
paraprofessionals.    He shared  that  students  also take  field                                                               
trips and  explore the Cordova  area on  Fridays.  He  noted that                                                               
the district  has had  sports and activities  the past  year, but                                                               
with no student  or staff travel.  He explained  that the focuses                                                               
have  been  on  skill  building,   being  part  of  a  team,  and                                                               
resiliency.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:17:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  MACMANUS, Superintendent,  Alaska Gateway  School District                                                               
(AGSD),  took  part  in  the   presentation  on  School  District                                                               
Perspectives and Updates.   He shared that he has  been with AGSD                                                               
for  20 years  and has  been its  superintendent for  the last  5                                                               
years.  He said that in March  of 2020, when the school shut down                                                               
was announced,  his staff used  spring break to design  a virtual                                                               
learning program, and "made do."   He commented that the district                                                               
kept all of its staff employed  and made and delivered over 5,000                                                               
meals weekly.  During this  transition, teachers made packets for                                                               
parents [to assist  in home learning] and were  often working 12-                                                               
to 14-hour days.  He shared  that in the summer the district "re-                                                               
tooled with the  intent of going into a  virtual blended learning                                                               
program."    He  explained  that  the  district  merged  hands-on                                                               
activities  with  computer-assisted  and  classroom  instruction,                                                               
which  continued into  the fall  for three  weeks.   He said  the                                                               
intention was that  the district could move classes  into and out                                                               
of the school as needed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS  said  that  AGSD made  certain  all  students  had                                                               
computers that  could be taken  home.   He explained that  at the                                                               
beginning  of  the  pandemic,  about  50  percent  of  homes  had                                                               
Internet, but had  since pushed that to 98 percent.   He said the                                                               
district worked with local Internet  service providers (ISPs) and                                                               
came up with a subsidized Internet  plan of which AGSD paid for a                                                               
portion.   He  explained  this  was with  the  intention of  [the                                                               
schools] moving in and out  of closure, using the "Alaska's Smart                                                               
Start  2020" plan  from  the Department  of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development (DEED).   He said  there had  been some cases  in the                                                               
community,  but AGSD  is  not  aware of  any  cases of  in-school                                                               
transmission.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:22:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS  attributed that  to mitigations  that had  been put                                                               
into place such as masks.   He shared that there has been testing                                                               
in the district since November 2020.   He said that with BynaxNOW                                                               
testing the  district caught  a number of  cases before  they got                                                               
into the schools, which has helped the district remain open.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS said  that  despite all  the  effort, the  [blended                                                               
learning plan]  wasn't working.   He said students were  not very                                                               
responsive, it was difficult to  maintain contact with homes, and                                                               
spite of the Internet availability,  there were bandwidth issues.                                                               
He explained  that AGSD was  constantly reevaluating  the program                                                               
and retooled again in the late fall.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:21:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS continued,  stating that  kids did  not necessarily                                                               
respond  well  to distance  learning.  In  late fall,  2020,  the                                                               
district  retooled its  approach  based on  the Alaska  Statewide                                                               
Virtual  School  (AKSVS)  training  taken by  the  Eagle,  Alaska                                                               
school.  He shared that the  district took a longer in-service in                                                               
January  so as  to  have  time to  train  for  the new  education                                                               
delivery  method,  which  focused   on  a  personalized  learning                                                               
approach.  He  said all schools are currently  open, although the                                                               
district has had to close schools  briefly.  He shared that there                                                               
was one COVID-19 case the past  week, but it had been caught with                                                               
the district's  screening protocols, which allowed  the school to                                                               
stay open.  He noted that this has repeatedly been the case.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:25:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS  said  that  the district  had  a  sports  program,                                                               
including  basketball  and volleyball.    He  explained that  all                                                               
players tested  every week  and before games,  and all  the teams                                                               
they play  also test  before the  games.   Teams have  refused to                                                               
test, he  commented, and so  AGSD did  not play those  teams with                                                               
the hope that they can schedule games the following year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS  said the  district had 95  percent of  its families                                                               
having students in-person in school.   He shared that the schools                                                               
have antigen testing and are  running "fairly normally."  He said                                                               
visitors  are allowed  but are  tested  and must  wear masks  and                                                               
maintain distance.   He offered  that the district  was preparing                                                               
for an intra district basketball tournament.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:27:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  asked  for   clarification  about  the  learning                                                               
program AGSD used that had the most success.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS answered that AKSVS  was promoted last year by DEED.                                                               
He commented that the program is a  lot of work for teachers.  He                                                               
said it  wasn't as  simple as giving  students computers,  and it                                                               
was  labor intensive  on  the teachers'  side  to facilitate  the                                                               
learning  and  set  up  the  hands-on  activities;  however,  the                                                               
district found it worked when done correctly.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS   shared  that   AGSD  uses   Northwest  Evaluation                                                               
Association's  (NWEA's)   Measure  of  Academic   Progress  (MAP)                                                               
assessment  testing.    He  said   this  helps  educators  design                                                               
instruction  to meet  individual needs.   This,  with AKSVS,  has                                                               
been very helpful  to the district, he  explained, in maintaining                                                               
student fidelity to a curriculum.   He said in the small schools,                                                               
this has made a "big difference."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:29:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  asked Mr.  Russin  what  the greatest  needs  of                                                               
CCSD's students at this point in the school year were.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN replied that at  a recent school board meeting, CCSD's                                                               
student representative said, "We need  more time," in the current                                                               
schedule.   Said students  are lined  up, waiting  to get  in the                                                               
building every  morning because they  need to be in  school, need                                                               
interaction with friends,  need the stability of  a schedule, and                                                               
need the  interaction with school and  staff.  He said  that tied                                                               
to  social and  emotional learning  (SEL) needs,  explaining that                                                               
that  even though  CCSD was  able  to have  in-person school,  it                                                               
isn't what  is usual or normal.   He asserted that  children need                                                               
some  sense of  normalcy in  their lives.   He  opined that  in a                                                               
small  community such  as Cordova,  the school  district plays  a                                                               
critical role in  helping to meet the academic and  the SEL needs                                                               
of students.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN  said CCSD is  in the early  stages of training  10 of                                                               
its 60  staff members in  an SEL  framework with the  Yale Center                                                               
for Emotional Intelligence  (YCEI).  He said at the  start of the                                                               
next school year, the district  would "pull in" community members                                                               
and families  to receive  the training, so  that students  can be                                                               
supported both in and out of school.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:33:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RUSSIN  referred  to  the   list  of  topics  and  questions                                                               
[included in the committee packet]  and addressed the next topic,                                                               
which  was  a  question  concerning  district  plans  to  address                                                               
learning  loss and  credit  recovery for  at-risk  students.   He                                                               
informed the committee that Cordova  has a small graduating class                                                               
this year of  17 seniors, 3 of whom have  already finished all of                                                               
their  credits   after  the   first  semester.     He   said  the                                                               
junior/senior high  school has a  program called  the Attendance,                                                               
Behavior, and  Course-Grades Early Warning System  (ABCEWS) which                                                               
is used  to identify  students who  are in need  of support.   He                                                               
said  he  was  uncomfortable  with the  term  learning  loss  and                                                               
explained  that there  is a  broad assumption  that all  students                                                               
have lost  a year of learning  [because of the pandemic],  but he                                                               
asserted that that is not true.   He agreed that life hasn't been                                                               
normal for  students, but he  stated that educators  must address                                                               
the notion  of learning loss,  ask whether it has  happened, and,                                                               
if so,  to what degree.   He said CCSD uses  MAP assessment data,                                                               
and that shows comparative data to previous years.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RUSSIN emphasized  that CCSD  is  constantly in  a state  of                                                               
trying to  do better  and to  help students  achieve more  but is                                                               
taking the notion of learning loss  with a cautious approach.  He                                                               
said the district  didn't want "to get caught up  in the rhetoric                                                               
that every  student has lost  a year  of learning."   He asserted                                                               
that  maintaining context  was important  to the  district as  it                                                               
continued to assess  the needs of its students.   He concluded by                                                               
reiterating the importance of students' SEL needs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:37:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY  asked Mr.  MacManus what he  saw as  the greatest                                                               
needs of his students at the end of the pandemic school year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS  shared that AGSD is  an SEL district that  has been                                                               
using  the  Collaborative  for Academic,  Social,  and  Emotional                                                               
Learning (CASEL) model  for the past five years.   He said it had                                                               
taken on a  new importance for the district and  shared that AGSD                                                               
currently  has a  grant that  has allowed  an extra  counselor on                                                               
staff.  He  said that small, normal everyday  things can suddenly                                                               
turn into  big things.   The stress  of the pandemic,  he opined,                                                               
ripples through the community and has caused challenges.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS  stated his agreement  with previous  comments about                                                               
lost learning.   He said he was  aware of the worry,  but that he                                                               
wasn't seeing it  in his district's test scores,  which have gone                                                               
up.   He  relayed that  his teachers  said this  was because  the                                                               
students were trying and working  harder.  He explained that this                                                               
effort wasn't sustainable and said that "people are tired."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS  offered that  counseling is  an issue  and asserted                                                               
that children  need to  be in  school.  He  opined that  this has                                                               
become  more apparent,  and he  emphasized  his observation  that                                                               
students  need  [school's]  social  structure.   He  pointed  out                                                               
attendance and participation in after school activities.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:41:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS commented  that Tok,  Alaska, has  a wide  range of                                                               
views about how  to approach the pandemic, which he  is trying to                                                               
balance.    He shared  AGSD  has  support from  other  districts,                                                               
largely  facilitated by  the  Alaska Superintendents  Association                                                               
(ASA).   He said initially  during the pandemic, ASA  was meeting                                                               
daily, which  transitioned to  a few times  weekly, and  now once                                                               
every  other week.   He  said  one of  the issues  that had  been                                                               
discussed  is equity  amongst homes.   He  said this  has largely                                                               
been addressed through Internet access.   He noted that turning a                                                               
computer into a textbook has made  the job of a teacher much more                                                               
difficult.   He explained students are  not in the same  place in                                                               
their  content, which  makes  it hard  for a  teacher  to have  a                                                               
regular class.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:44:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY commented that the  committee appreciates the work                                                               
that educators  have been putting  forth.  She asked  Ms. Gaborik                                                               
what she  was seeing as the  greatest needs of her  students when                                                               
closing out the pandemic school year.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  GABORIK reiterated  her colleagues'  statements.   She  said                                                               
that in  terms of academics,  "it's a  hyper focus on  areas that                                                               
we're always focused  on."  She mentioned that  early literacy is                                                               
a concern  for kindergarten through  the third-grade  as children                                                               
return to in-person  learning.  She commented  that some students                                                               
are not  "where they might have  been at this time  in the school                                                               
year."  She  discussed high school students, sharing  that it was                                                               
a  priority  to make  sure  that  this  year's seniors  have  the                                                               
supports they  need to stay  on track  for graduation.   She said                                                               
some students hadn't done any  work prior to returning to classes                                                               
in February  2021.  She  emphasized providing supports  for these                                                               
students  to  recover  credits  and shared  that  FNSBSD  runs  a                                                               
program called  "intersession" in June  for students to  catch up                                                               
on credits.   She shared that  the district added the  program in                                                               
January this  past year.   She said there  has been space  in the                                                               
schedule  where  students  have   had  extra  time  for  academic                                                               
supports and focusing credit recovery.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:47:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. GABORIK  addressed students' social and  emotional needs. She                                                               
said the  pandemic has highlighted  the complexity  of wraparound                                                               
services for  families and referred  to the agencies  involved as                                                               
"a community chain."   She stated that when the  chain is broken,                                                               
schools  are the  front line,  in  terms of  analysis and  crisis                                                               
response.    She  explained  that when  children  aren't  in  the                                                               
building, staff doesn't have the  opportunity to identify whether                                                               
a student  or family is in  crisis and needs help  or a referral.                                                               
She  said as  students return  to in-person  learning, staff  are                                                               
trying  to be  "hyper-vigilant" observing  students and  reaching                                                               
out to families.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. GABORIK  said food insecurity  has been  an issue, so  it has                                                               
been important to  provide breakfast and lunch to  students.  She                                                               
explained that even with efforts  by the district to provide food                                                               
at multiple drop-off points, there  was a significant drop in the                                                               
number  of families  accessing the  service.   She said  now that                                                               
students  are back  [in-person], utilization  of the  service has                                                               
risen.  She  discussed the broad definition  of homeless students                                                               
and  how time  spent  in  school is  important  to help  homeless                                                               
students  navigate  their situations.    She  explained that  the                                                               
school  has food  pantries with  clothing and  supplies with  the                                                               
help of community  partners.  She said getting  those basic needs                                                               
to  children  and  families  was  difficult  when  schools  where                                                               
closed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:50:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS asked what  each district's plans were for                                                               
helping  students  prepare  for  the following  year  during  the                                                               
summer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR GABORIK responded that FNSBSD  is expanding its summer options                                                               
for students as made possible  under the federal Coronavirus Aid,                                                               
Relief, and  Economic Security (CARES)  Act.  She  commented that                                                               
staff are tired, which is making  it difficult to fill the summer                                                               
school teaching  and support  positions.   She said  the district                                                               
was trying to  be strategic about that by having  the first round                                                               
of programs  in June, then taking  a break until August  for some                                                               
elementary  school  programs.   She  offered  a "K-3  Jump  Start                                                               
Program" as an  example of a new offering before  school began in                                                               
the fall.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:52:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS stated  that two  schools completely  closed during                                                               
Thanksgiving of 2020  and the following Christmas.   He explained                                                               
those two  schools would be  operating into  June 2021.   He said                                                               
this  was done  with  the communities  with  the expectation  the                                                               
schools would be further along.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS said that in  terms of summer programs, the district                                                               
would be  hosting summer camps  for students who  hadn't finished                                                               
their  credits, so  they could  do  the work  required to  finish                                                               
their  classes.   These  are bootcamps,  he  explained, that  are                                                               
targeted specifically on what students  need to do to get classes                                                               
wrapped  up.   He agreed  with Dr.  Gaborik's comments  about the                                                               
difficulty of  hiring staff  for the summer  months.   He offered                                                               
that his district has addressed  the issue by utilizing new staff                                                               
that was hired for the oncoming  school year.  He shared that his                                                               
district has  a high population  of Alaska Natives and  is trying                                                               
to  incorporate  summer   subsistence  activities  into  academic                                                               
learning.   He offered the  example of a fishwheel  project being                                                               
done in cooperation  with the National Park Service  (NPS) in the                                                               
Wrangell-St. Elias  Park.  He  said the district would  be taking                                                               
students down  for a  weeklong camp along  the Copper  River that                                                               
would  fulfill  curriculum  requirements by  including  fisheries                                                               
biology   He shared  that the  trip also  would teach  them about                                                               
camping  and fishing  techniques that  are important  for village                                                               
life.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:56:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN told  Representative Hopkins that it  is CCSD's intent                                                               
to  offer two  different summer  school  sessions.   He said  the                                                               
first  is  scheduled in  May  and  June  and  will focus  on  the                                                               
district's migrant  students.  He  said that  at the end  of July                                                               
through  the  beginning of  August,  the  district will  host  "a                                                               
bootcamp" program for students with  federal funds.  He said this                                                               
camp  would pay  particular  attention  to incoming  kindergarten                                                               
students.  He explained that there  are 40 new students, and they                                                               
did not  have the opportunity  for pre-kindergarten,  because the                                                               
district was unable to run it during the 2020-2021 school year.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:57:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked Mr. Russin to define migrant students.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RUSSIN replied  that 30  percent of  his district's  student                                                               
population qualifies as  migrant students.  He said  it was based                                                               
on federal  guidelines for students  who do  "migrant activities"                                                               
or  subsistence activities  outside  of Cordova.    He said  this                                                               
could mean going out  on a boat and fishing for  a period of time                                                               
for at  least seven days and  seven nights of the  year, although                                                               
it didn't have to be consecutive.   He also offered berry picking                                                               
and gathering as activities.   He clarified that this referred to                                                               
students who  went outside of  the community to help  meet family                                                               
needs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:59:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  Dr. Gaborik  how students  have fared                                                               
academically, noting that the other  two presenters had mentioned                                                               
MAP testing.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. GABORIK  replied that  she had  heard anecdotally  from other                                                               
superintendents that the  district would see an  increase in test                                                               
scores; however,  she argued that  is directly related to  who is                                                               
testing.   She explained that  she felt both MAP  and Performance                                                               
Evaluation  for   Alaska's  Schools  (PEAKS)  would   provide  an                                                               
interesting data  point but argued  that the district  would have                                                               
to  look at  who did  and didn't  test.   She commented  that the                                                               
students who "had  been hanging with us" had  probably had family                                                               
support to test.   She argued that it was  important to recognize                                                               
that  the students  that didn't  have that  support may  not test                                                               
because they  do have  an opt-out option,  which she  thought the                                                               
scores may reflect.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:00:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  asked  Mr. MacManus  where  his  district  stood                                                               
financially.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACMANUS answered  that  many families  moved  to AGSD  from                                                               
larger  cities  when the  pandemic  began.  This lead  enrollment                                                               
numbers to  be near [pre-pandemic] estimates,  which he explained                                                               
did not negatively impact district  funding.  He also shared that                                                               
AGSD's  correspondence program  had  about  10 percent  increased                                                               
enrollment.  He  noted, however, that the district  has been flat                                                               
funded for a number of years, which  is a cost to AGSD of between                                                               
$700,000 to $1,000,000 in terms of buying power.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS stated  that since AGSD is a small  district, it has                                                               
had to rely  on grants.  He  said most of what  he had previously                                                               
discussed regarding learning recovery  had not been financed from                                                               
the district's general revenue.   He explained that as a Regional                                                               
Educational Attendance  Area (REAA), AGSD  does not have  a local                                                               
contribution.   He  said that  instead  it has  Impact Aid  Grant                                                               
System money  [from the United  States Department  of Education],                                                               
of which it receives 10 percent.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS  said the district has  issues getting appropriately                                                               
staffed and with  deferred maintenance.  He  stated that finances                                                               
are an issue for AGSD.   He emphasized that the district has been                                                               
hurting.   He  acknowledged  that the  American  Rescue Plan  Act                                                               
(ARPA) money would  help but commented that he  was worried about                                                               
the coming years.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:03:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY asked Dr. Gaborik where FNSBSD stood financially.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  GABORIK  stated that  this  has  been the  most  challenging                                                               
budget  year she  has ever  experienced.   She said  there was  a                                                               
reduction  in  revenue  due  to  the  2,000-student  decrease  in                                                               
enrollment.  She shared that  the current year's revenue loss was                                                               
over  $9   million,  so  the  district   completely  drained  its                                                               
unassigned  fund balance  in order  to  cover the  losses in  the                                                               
current year.   She stated that the revenue loss  next year would                                                               
be $22 million  with the hold harmless  protection accounted for.                                                               
She said this  was related specifically to the  general fund (GF)                                                               
and  student  enrollment.   She  said  $2  million was  lost  for                                                               
transportation  because of  the lower  student enrollment,  along                                                               
with monies for nutrition services.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR.  GABORIK said  that  because of  the  lost revenue,  FNSBSD's                                                               
school  board is  issuing  $26 million  in cuts.    She said  the                                                               
district is using Emergency Coronavirus  Relief Act of 2020 funds                                                               
to  offset cutting  some  positions the  district  no longer  can                                                               
afford.   However, she  pointed out  that grant  funding teachers                                                               
and staff is not sustainable.   She said the district is planning                                                               
to  be strategic  with funding  from  ARPA, by  spreading it  out                                                               
through October 2024.   She pointed out that  as students return,                                                               
state funds will  not match the increased needs and  will need to                                                               
be  supplemented.   She summarized  that  FNSBSD is  "in a  tough                                                               
spot," and that  its "unassigned fund balance is  projected to be                                                               
near zero."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:07:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN stated that as a  city school district, CCSD relies on                                                               
local  contributions  for  its  budget.    Although  historically                                                               
Cordova's  city  council had  fully  funded  its portion  of  the                                                               
district's budget,  he said in the  last three to five  years its                                                               
contributions have been  lower, adding up to about  $1 million in                                                               
budget  losses.   He said  this has  made CCSD  have to  consider                                                               
spending  down  its  fund  balance,   which  is  not  necessarily                                                               
operational cash,  rather inventories and pre-paid  expenses.  He                                                               
shared  that since  2017, health  insurance costs  have increased                                                               
between 15  and 20 percent  along with  the cost of  salaries and                                                               
associated accounts, while student enrollment has gone down.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSSIN  noted that budget  conversations have been  about the                                                               
district's needs  rather than  its wants.   He said  the district                                                               
doesn't believe its  needs will change or be  reduced, rather its                                                               
needs have  been increasing.   He pointed  out that  the district                                                               
was  unable  to provide  a  pre-kindergarten  program during  the                                                               
current school year  and likely wouldn't [have  the resources to]                                                               
offer  a  pre-kindergarten  program   the  following  year.    He                                                               
explained  that the  district didn't  have the  grant funding  to                                                               
continue these programs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:11:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRONK asked  Mr.  MacManus to  summarize how  his                                                               
district has worked with the local community.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACMANUS  said his district comprised  seven communities, six                                                               
of  which  are villages.    He  said  his  approach has  been  to                                                               
maintain  constant  communication with  villages.    He said  the                                                               
district  has  followed  the  communities'  individual  leads  in                                                               
closing  schools   and  following  each   community's  quarantine                                                               
requirements.   He said  it is  because of  the villages  and the                                                               
Alaska Native  community in the  Arctic Gateway Borough  that the                                                               
district  has  done  so  well  with  vaccine  distribution.    He                                                               
commented that AGSD  has a great relationship  with Tanana Chiefs                                                               
Conference (TCC) and Ahtna, Incorporated.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:14:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRONK opined  that  Mr. MacManus  gave a  perfect                                                               
example of why one size does not fit all.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY thanked each superintendent.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         HB 19-LIMITED TEACHER CERTIFICATES; LANGUAGES                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:15:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  19, "An  Act relating  to  instruction in  a                                                               
language other  than English;  and establishing  limited language                                                               
immersion teacher certificates."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:16:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JONATHAN  KREISS-TOMKINS,   as  prime   sponsor,                                                               
presented HB  19.   He thanked the  committee for  the discussion                                                               
during the previous hearing.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:17:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY moved  to adopt  Amendment 1  to HB  19,                                                               
labeled 32-LS0169\B.1, which read as follows:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 18 - 19:                                                                                                     
          Delete "(f) of this section and"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 24 - 30:                                                                                                     
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:17:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:17:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY  explained  that  this  amendment  would                                                               
remove subsection (f) from the  proposed legislation.  She argued                                                               
that the language was "looking to  resolve an issue that does not                                                               
exist."  She directed attention  to subsection (c) and said there                                                               
were already safety measures in  place for a rigorous application                                                               
process  that would  preclude world  language teachers  who teach                                                               
non-indigenous languages from  being able to misuse  this type of                                                               
certificate.   She  stated her  belief that  it was  important to                                                               
simplify the  language, which would  clarify the intention  of HB
19 and focus on Alaska Native languages.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:19:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND removed her objection.   There being no further                                                               
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:20:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  commented that she  was excited to  bring this                                                               
option to  schools and  noted that it  was the  third legislative                                                               
session she  had heard the  proposed legislation.   She mentioned                                                               
that she  was disappointed  by the lack  of public  testimony and                                                               
alluded to  testimony that  was given  during past  iterations of                                                               
the proposed legislation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS  asked if  HB  19  was identical  to  the                                                               
recent version that  was crafted in the House  Labor and Commerce                                                               
Standing Committee during the previous legislative session.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  responded that it is  identical to                                                               
the version from the House  Labor and Commerce Standing Committee                                                               
from  the  previous  legislature,   with  the  exception  of  the                                                               
amendment that was just adopted.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:22:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  moved to report  HB 19, as  amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection,  CSHB
19(EDC)  was  reported  out  of   the  House  Education  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:23:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:23 a.m. to 9:25 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         HB 60-PUBLIC SCHOOLS: MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:25:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY announced  that the final order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  60,  "An  Act  relating  to  mental  health                                                               
education."   [The motion made  on 3/31/21 to adopt  the proposed                                                               
committee substitute (CS) for HB  60, Version 32-LS0261\B, Klein,                                                               
3/25/21, as a work draft was left pending with an objection.]                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:26:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SOPHIE  JONAS, Staff,  Representative Matt  Claman, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, presented HB 60 on  behalf of Representative Claman,                                                               
prime sponsor.   She clarified  that the only thing  the proposed                                                               
legislation would  mandate would be  that the Alaska  State Board                                                               
of Education  update guidelines to include  instruction in mental                                                               
health.   She  explained that  it would  not mandate  that school                                                               
districts  adopt a  specific  curriculum,  rather the  guidelines                                                               
could be voluntarily incorporated.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:27:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  asked if  the proposed  legislation would                                                               
offer   guidelines  to   teach  students   about  mental   health                                                               
situations  and  how  they  could seek  help  within  the  health                                                               
curriculum.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. JONAS confirmed that was correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:27:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX   asked  how  many  districts   already  had                                                               
guidelines in place.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. JONAS replied  that she did not know how  many, but she would                                                               
find  an answer  to the  question.   She offered  that by  having                                                               
state-wide guidelines,  schools could have a  standardized format                                                               
to implement their own mental health curricula.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:28:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY opened invited testimony on HB 60.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:29:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON LESSARD,  Executive Director,  National Alliance  on Mental                                                               
Illness (NAMI)  Anchorage, provided  invited testimony on  HB 60.                                                               
He  stated  his  belief  that   mental  health  education  is  an                                                               
important and vital  component to Alaska schools'  curricula.  He                                                               
stated  his  desire  to  dispel  misunderstandings  that  he  was                                                               
hearing from  the proposed legislation's  opposition.   He argued                                                               
that there  is no "indoctrination"  or mandate implied by  HB 60,                                                               
rather it is  an update to [AS 14.30.360(a)],  which reads, "Each                                                               
district in  the state public  school system shall  be encouraged                                                               
to  initiate  and  conduct  a program  in  health  education  for                                                               
kindergarten through  grade 12."   He said that  school districts                                                               
should operate  in a  safe and effective  manner and  opined that                                                               
not  all programs  that are  brought into  schools to  talk about                                                               
this subject do this well.   He said NAMI Anchorage would like to                                                               
have evidence-based programs and  best practices involved to help                                                               
school districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LESSARD mentioned  a letter  of opposition  from the  Alaska                                                               
Republicans of District 3 [included  in the committee packet] and                                                               
referenced  a line  from  paragraph 8  which  read, "Whereas  any                                                               
given  district may  pursue such  standards  through their  local                                                               
school  boards  if  they  choose,"  with which  he  agreed.    He                                                               
explained that  the proposed legislation  would not  change that,                                                               
rather  it helps  to  bring on  programs that  will  work and  be                                                               
effective.    He  offered  an  anecdote  about  a  high  school's                                                               
response to  a suicide in Anchorage.   He said the  school rolled                                                               
out a  program with  good intentions  but without  involving best                                                               
practices.   He stated  that the program  had adverse  effects on                                                               
the students.   He  reiterated that the  goal of  the legislation                                                               
was  to  help  districts  with  [these  issues]  in  a  safe  and                                                               
effective way.  He explained  that there are experts involved and                                                               
school  districts across  the  nation who  have  been working  on                                                               
this.   He  emphasized that  the intention  is not  to take  away                                                               
school districts'  decision whether to implement  a mental health                                                               
program, rather  to be sure  that a  program being brought  on is                                                               
safe.  He summarized his  argument by stressing that the proposed                                                               
legislation is not  a mandate and is not indoctrination;  it is a                                                               
way to  help schools help  students.   He noted crisis  levels of                                                               
suicide  in  Alaska  youth  according   to  Youth  Risk  Behavior                                                               
Surveillance  System (YRBSS)  data  from the  Center for  Disease                                                               
Control and Prevention (CDC).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:32:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  asked Mr.  Lessard to  describe what  the high                                                               
school in Anchorage did that adversely affected students.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LESSARD  replied that  the school  showed a  "somewhat dated"                                                               
film   that  addressed   suicide   but  did   not  facilitate   a                                                               
conversation or add  any opportunity for dialogue.   He explained                                                               
that, although done  with the best of intentions,  this left many                                                               
students  feeling worse.    He  shared that  there  was a  survey                                                               
conducted by  students at the  school asking for  other students'                                                               
thoughts,  and over  100 students  responded.   He said  that the                                                               
administration  and students  are now  working together  to bring                                                               
programming to  the school.  He  stressed the desire to  bring on                                                               
programs that are effective and evidence based.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked for a brief description of YRBS.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LESSARD answered  that the Youth Risk  Behavior Survey (YRBS)                                                               
is  conducted  every  other  year.   He  said  it  asks  students                                                               
questions related  to topics such  as substance abuse  and mental                                                               
health.  He commented that the  numbers he uses deal with suicide                                                               
ideation and  suicide attempts.  He  said that from 2017  to 2019                                                               
there  had   been  a  significant  increase   in  every  category                                                               
concerning suicide ideation and attempts.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  referenced page  one  of  the "2019  Alaska                                                               
Youth Risk  Behavior Survey Highlights,"  [hard copy  included in                                                               
included  in committee  packet].   He  commented  that the  paper                                                               
indicated  that  about  20  percent  of  students  had  attempted                                                               
suicide.   He asked  if there  had been follow  up to  verify the                                                               
number.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LESSARD replied  that he had not followed up  on the reported                                                               
numbers.  He explained that the  state has been doing this survey                                                               
through the  Department of  Health and  Social Services  for some                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:36:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMMA KNAPP,  Alumni, Mental Health Advocacy  Through Storytelling                                                               
(MHATS),  provided invited  testimony in  support of  HB 60.  She                                                               
recalled her experience  with mental health issues,  and the need                                                               
to address  these issues with  students.  She told  the committee                                                               
that  three  weeks ago,  a  former  student  of her  high  school                                                               
committed suicide.   She explained  that she knew  the individual                                                               
personally  and took  a  week off  from school  to  grieve.   She                                                               
stated  that returning  to school  was a  conscious decision  she                                                               
made  with  the  help  of  her  parents,  therapist,  and  school                                                               
counselor.   She  said the  "dated film"  that addressed  suicide                                                               
triggered  her  emotions  surrounding   her  friend's  death  and                                                               
triggered her previous  suicidal ideations.  She  shared that she                                                               
is now part of an effort at  her school to make its mental health                                                               
programs  more   accurate  and  comprehensive  but   argued  that                                                               
responsibility  of an  accurate mental  health curriculum  should                                                               
not be put on  students such as herself.  She said  if HB 60 were                                                               
in place, she would not have  had to get involved during the time                                                               
she was grieving.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. KNAPP  shared that two years  ago she was "in  a dark place,"                                                               
and suffered from  depression and multiple panic  attacks a week.                                                               
She  said  that   at  the  time,  she  didn't   know  these  were                                                               
"classifiable experiences."   She said she was  convinced that no                                                               
one else felt  that way and believed she would  feel that way for                                                               
the rest  of her life.   She explained that she  didn't know that                                                               
she  needed help,  because mental  health was  not normalized  in                                                               
schools.   She shared that  she went months without  reaching out                                                               
for  help.   Once she  got help,  she said  she still  felt lost,                                                               
found herself contemplating  suicide, and was afraid  to tell her                                                               
therapist.  She  pointed out that all of this  happened while she                                                               
had a good support system, and  that her family had the financial                                                               
resources  to get  her  help.   She  said she  is  "more than  an                                                               
anecdote," and  she referenced statistics relating  to depression                                                               
in  high school  students.   She  argued that  HB  60 would  help                                                               
individuals such as herself.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:40:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY  thanked Ms. Knapp for  her testimony and                                                               
commended her poise and bravery.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:40:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE RHYNEER JR,  MD, provided invited testimony  in support of                                                               
HB  60.   He stated  that adults  deal with  their mental  health                                                               
every day,  as do  youth, but  youth do  not have  experience [to                                                               
understand  how to  process their  mental health]  and frequently                                                               
have no help.   He commented that it was  encouraging to hear the                                                               
superintendents who  spoke previously discuss concerns  about the                                                               
mental  health  of their  students,  as  that was  not  something                                                               
talked about  in the past.   He  said this wasn't  something that                                                               
required parental  consent, as consent  wasn't required  for what                                                               
was being introduced [regarding health education] now.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR RHYNEER  opined that a  current problem in the  United States,                                                               
as exemplified by  shootings and violence, is mental  health.  He                                                               
stated that 22 children are shot  in America per day, and half of                                                               
the shootings are related to mental  health issues.  He urged the                                                               
committee members  to support HB  60, stating that  healthy young                                                               
individuals will become healthy adults.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:42:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY opened public testimony on HB 60.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:43:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE BOTZ testified in support of HB  60.  She stated that it is                                                               
important to address mental health  for students, especially when                                                               
students  have  been suffering  from  social  distancing and  not                                                               
being able to  be with their friends.   She shared that  she is a                                                               
school  bus driver  for the  Juneau  School District.   She  said                                                               
students  don't know  how  to  speak up  about  their issues  and                                                               
problems, and  many don't know that  it is okay to  ask for help.                                                               
She stated  that one cannot  have physical health  without mental                                                               
health.   She shared that  she has major depressive  disorder and                                                               
has  struggled  during the  pandemic.    She  shared that  it  is                                                               
difficult to  deal with  depression and  discussed the  stigma of                                                               
mental health.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:45:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA SAMASH testified on HB 60.   She said it has been "quite a                                                               
journey  listening  to all  these  testimonies."   She  said  she                                                               
initially called  in to testify in  opposition, citing government                                                               
overreach.    After  learning  more,  she  stated,  she  now  has                                                               
questions regarding the proposed  curriculum.  She explained that                                                               
while  mental  health  is  an   issue,  she  has  concerns  about                                                               
government  becoming involved  in citizens'  private lives.   She                                                               
said she is on  the fence regarding HB 60, but  would like to see                                                               
amendments protecting  families from  government overreach.   She                                                               
expressed concern about things being considered child abuse.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:49:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN WEDEMEYER,  Citizens Commission on Human  Rights (CCHR),                                                               
Alaska and Washington  Chapter, testified in opposition  to HB 60                                                               
and requested amendments  to the proposed legislation.   She said                                                               
the intent to improve mental  health education must be focused on                                                               
improving  the  health of  youth  and  should  be with  the  full                                                               
agreement  of  parents.    She  argued  that  there  are  several                                                               
problems  with mental  health  education in  schools.   She  said                                                               
mental health education  is driven by providers  who benefit from                                                               
screening, referrals,  diagnosis, and  treatment that has  led to                                                               
roughly 7  million youth  being on psychiatric  drugs.   She said                                                               
parents should have  the right to say "no,"  if psychiatrists and                                                               
psychologists are using schools to  test or assess students.  She                                                               
said  the  only groups  that  benefit  from such  screenings  are                                                               
psychiatry  and the  pharmaceutical industry.   She  said suicide                                                               
should  be  seen  as  a  behavior rather  than  a  mental  health                                                               
disorder.  She said that  the Alaska Statewide Suicide Prevention                                                               
Council recognizes this to be true.   She asked that the proposed                                                               
legislation be amended  to broaden the scope of  the committee in                                                               
each  district  to  include  parents,  healthcare  professionals,                                                               
business leaders,  and spiritual advisors.   She said  CCHR would                                                               
be happy to discuss the  legislation and provide materials on its                                                               
points.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:52:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
APRIL  ORTH testified  in  opposition  to HB  60.   She  declared                                                               
herself a proponent for mental  health, citing it as "amazing and                                                               
necessary in our families that  need the services."  However, she                                                               
said  she  is  opposed  to  mental  health  education  in  school                                                               
districts.   She  argued that  there are  services that  identify                                                               
young people who need help that  keep parents involved.  She said                                                               
mental health is  a "whole family experience,"  and she expressed                                                               
concern  that the  proposed  legislation  would separate  parents                                                               
from  children.   She  also  argued that  mental  health care  in                                                               
school couldn't  be covered by  the Health  Insurance Portability                                                               
and Accountability  Act of 1996  (HIPAA).  She said  the proposed                                                               
legislation was  being sold with "emotional  blackmail" which was                                                               
a form of "indoctrination."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:56:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA TYNDALL testified  in opposition to HB 60.   She said she                                                               
agreed  with the  previous two  testifiers' positions  and argued                                                               
that "guidelines  tend to  become mandates down  the line."   She                                                               
referenced Representative  Cronk's statement  that one  size does                                                               
not fit  all because Alaska  is a large  and diverse state.   She                                                               
pointed out  her desire that  parents be involved, and  that this                                                               
should be a local, community, and family issue.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:58:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY closed public testimony on HB 60.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:59:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRONK  asked  whether,  under HB  60,  the  words                                                               
"physical health" would be removed from statute.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MATT CLAMAN, as  prime sponsor, answered questions                                                               
about HB  60.  He  replied that  the language was  removed during                                                               
Legislative   Legal   Service's    drafting   of   the   proposed                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  added that mental health  was being added                                                               
to  the  definition  of  what  would be  taught  in  "health  and                                                               
personal  safety," which  was previously  described as  "physical                                                               
health and personal safety."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRONK  clarified that  "physical" health  would be                                                               
removed from Section 2, subsection (a), and asked why that was.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY commented that it could be considered.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:01:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX stated  that he was struggling  with the same                                                               
ideas  expressed  by  some  of  the testifiers.    He  said  that                                                               
addressing mental health  in a public setting  like schools opens                                                               
up problems.   He said that  using a top-down approach  would not                                                               
work, and this required diversification.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  replied that  the proposed  legislation is                                                               
not a  mandate and has  the goal  of giving flexibility  to local                                                               
communities.    He commented  that  current  guidelines from  the                                                               
state leave  room for districts  to make their own  policies, and                                                               
this would  be no different.   He  explained that the  purpose of                                                               
the proposed  legislation is not  to address what  counselors may                                                               
or may not do to help students,  rather it is to add a discussion                                                               
about mental health to health classes.   He said this bill is not                                                               
an  effort to  solve  mental health  problems  or a  constrictive                                                               
approach.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:04:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked about  broadening the stakeholder group                                                               
that creates the guidelines.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  replied that the language  of the proposed                                                               
CS  for HB  60  was rewritten  to be  broad  regarding who  could                                                               
participate in crafting guidelines.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:07:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  announced  that  HB  60 was  held  over.    [The                                                               
objection to  the motion  made on 3/31/21  to adopt  the proposed                                                               
committee substitute (CS) for HB  60, Version 32-LS0261\B, Klein,                                                               
3/25/21, as a work draft was left pending.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:07:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 10:07 a.m.                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Topics & Questions.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 60 Testimony - Received as of 4.8.2021.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 60
HB 60 HEDC opposed 4.15.21.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 60
HB60 HEDC support 4.15.21.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 60
HB 19 Amendment B.1.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 19
House Education Committee Presenters 4.16.21.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
School District Updates
HB 60 Testimony Support 4.16.21.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 60
HB 60 Testimony Opposed 4.16.21.pdf HEDC 4/16/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 60